huslage 11 hours ago

Why is an OpenAI exec testifying at a Google trial? Did I miss something?

  • ac29 9 hours ago

    Turley, a witness for the government, testified earlier in the day that Google shot down a bid by OpenAI to use its search technology within ChatGPT. OpenAI had reached out to Google after experiencing issues with its own search provider, Turley said, without naming the provider. ChatGPT uses technology from Microsoft's search engine, Bing.

    "We believe having multiple partners, and in particular Google's API, would enable us to provide a better product to users," OpenAI told Google, according to an email shown at trial.

    OpenAI first reached out in July, and Google declined the request in August, saying it would involve too many competitors, according to the email.

    "We have no partnership with Google today," Turley said.

    The DOJ's proposal to make Google share search data with competitors as one means of restoring competition would help accelerate efforts to improve ChatGPT, Turley said.

  • jdale27 11 hours ago

    OpenAI competes with Google, so obviously the government invited them to testify about how Google is a big bully that has no competition.

  • riku_iki 10 hours ago

    maybe one line of defense is that Chrome is good for society, but no one wants to buy and support it..

rvz 9 hours ago

Anyone but OpenAI.

History would repeat itself and we'll be just switching the web from one behemoth (Microsoft IE) to another (Google Chrome) and yet another (OpenAI) [0].

Would be the worst outcome.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32145561

9283409232 8 hours ago

I said in a different thread that if Google was forced to sell Chrome, Elon Musk would buy it to force xAI on everyone. I was in the ballpark apparently as OpenAI is the AI company that would buy it to force ChatGPT on everyone.

7bit 12 hours ago

So instead of ads the new cancer becomes AI

  • slurpyb 7 hours ago

    Advertising might be the only revenue stream that could scale for them. It’s inevitable. A boring dystopia.

  • philipov 10 hours ago

    It's funny that you phrase that in future tense, and mutually exclusive.